What Do Merck Employees Think of the SANE Vax Discovery of Gardasil Contamination

No reaction from official channels on S.A.N.E. Vax's find of genetically modified HPV DNA that is in the Gardasil vaccine and one of its victims blood.... even though it not supposed to be in either. 


But Merck employees are commenting.  Anonymously of course on Cafe Pharma (the table below is all wonky and I am too tired to fix it... so go to the source to read).  This is indicative of the sentiment:

"charred saran wrap, now this...I gotta get another job"

"And Merck will handle this just like they handled Vioxx...deny, deny, deny until the FDA is forced to do something. It's one thing when adults are hurt, when kids get hurt, look out. Merck will finally get what it deserves."

"Great, as if trying to sell a vaccine with this many reactions isn't hard enough already..."

"When do we understand that something is wrong and needs to be fixed?"

"The most depressing thing about these posts is that none of us are surprised that this happened...maybe it's time to cut the cord."

When your own employees call you corrupt, you are corrupt.


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#1    09-07-2011, 06:12 PM

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SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil To .. SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil To FDA: Requests Public Safety Investigation TROY, Mont.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sep 6, 2011 - SANE Vax Inc. announced today they sent a certified letter to FDA Commissioner, Dr. Margaret Hamburg, to inform the agency 100% of 13 samples of Merck & Companies HPV 4 Quadrivalent vaccine, Gardasil™ have been found to be contaminated with recombinant HPV DNA. The vaccine vials were from different lots currently marketed in the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Spain, France and Poland. Medical consumers from these countries asked SANE Vax Inc. to help determine if there is residual recombinant HPV DNA in the Gardasil™ vaccine currently used by their doctors. They are concerned that the recombinant DNA, if present, may have triggered some of the autoimmune-based inflammatory disorders and malignant tumors observed among children/young women after receiving Gardasil™ vaccinations. According to Norma Erickson, president of SANE Vax, “A sexually naïve girl developed acute juvenile rheumatoid arthritis at age 13 within 24 hours after the third Gardasil™ injection and her blood sample - tested two years later - was found to be positive for HPV DNA by a local clinical laboratory.” A possible connection between HPV DNA in Gardasil™ and leukemia or lymphoma has also been raised by vaccine safety advocates, said Erickson. The letter sent to Dr. Margaret Hamburg at the FDA stated, “One of the HPV DNA fragments detected in the vaccine is part of a synthetic construct (GenBank Locus SCU55993) for HPV11 major capsid protein L1 gene, a recombinant DNA genetically engineered specifically for manufacturing of the Gardasil vaccine.” “There is no doubt that the HPV DNA found in the vaccine represents an adventitious agent left over from the DNA recombinant manufacturing process with potential adverse impacts on health safety of those vaccinated. The recombinant DNA found in Gardasil is very tightly bound to aluminum hydroxyphosphate. When injected intramuscularly, this combination may function as a DNA vaccine with uncertain consequences,” said Erickson. Both the FDA and the vaccine manufacturer assumed that there was no HPV DNA in Gardasil™ when the vaccine was approved for marketing, according to SANE Vax. “Because one hundred percent of the samples tested were positive for HPV DNA contamination, SANE Vax Inc. requests the FDA investigate the extent of the HPV DNA contamination in the Gardasil HPV4 vaccine currently on the market and take appropriate actions to ensure public safety regarding future shipments,” stated the letter. The HPV DNA testing was performed by Dr. Sin Hang Lee, a pathologist at the Milford Hospital pathology laboratory known in using cutting-edge DNA sequencing for molecular diagnoses. This methodology was first reported to the FDA in 2006 and has been published in various peer-reviewed scientific journals, stated Erickson. Contact: SANE Vax, Inc. Norma Erickson, 406-295-5218 admin@sanevax.org http://sanevax.org/sane-vax-inc-repo...investigation/

#2    09-07-2011, 06:47 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Merck has become a 3rd world pharmaceutical company.

#3    09-07-2011, 10:35 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Seriously, fire everyone in manufacturing, they've been bringing this company down for half a decade now. You'd think Dick Clark coming from manufacturing to be CEO before would mean that division would be rock solid, but it's the opposite. Now, we have legal running everything and destroying innovation and business.

#4    09-07-2011, 10:52 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T And Merck will handle this just like they handled Vioxx...deny, deny, deny until the FDA is forced to do something. It's one thing when adults are hurt, when kids get hurt, look out. Merck will finally get what it desrerves.

#5    09-07-2011, 10:56 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Oh shit, here we go again.

#6    09-07-2011, 11:11 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Great, as if trying to sell a vaccine with this many reactions isn't hard enough already...

#7    09-07-2011, 11:17 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Go to Sane Vax website and search for anyone with credible credentials. They're going after Cervarix, too.

#8    09-08-2011, 07:14 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Let's face it, Merck has never been honest when it comes to this vaccine.

#9    09-08-2011, 08:25 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  Let's face it, Merck has never been honest when it comes to this vaccine. Besides that, Merck does not know what the hell is going on with production.

#10    09-08-2011, 09:39 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T With all the manufacturing issues......why does Willie Deese still have a position in this company. He should have been sh**canned years ago.

#11    09-08-2011, 12:49 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  With all the manufacturing issues......why does Willie Deese still have a position in this company. He should have been sh**canned years ago. It's beyond manufacturing, QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA ,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,Q A,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA, QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA ,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,Q A,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA,QA needs to be replaced from top to bottom. Try selling our products with this information. They are destroying Merck.

#12    09-08-2011, 01:42 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  Seriously, fire everyone in manufacturing, they've been bringing this company down for half a decade now. You'd think Dick Clark coming from manufacturing to be CEO before would mean that division would be rock solid, but it's the opposite. Now, we have legal running everything and destroying innovation and business. Dick is a joke- under his watch vaccine manufacturing became as big a joke as this company has become. At one time almost half of the vaccines were not being manufactured and we lost market share that was hard to gain back.

#13    09-08-2011, 10:23 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T First charred saran wrap, now this...I gotta get another job

#14    09-08-2011, 10:31 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Been at Merck for a long time now. Pipelines comes and go. This is not the first time we have no had a blockbuster drug coming out. I do understand that the manufacturing process can have issues. Those issues need to be picked up and addressed before it makes it's way out the door. Once it's out the door and to the public there is no turning back. You can't un-ring a bell. It does not damage Gardasil but all the drugs we make. This has to stop because it's getting to the point where we will have 0.0 trust by our customers. The manufacturing process is the easy part of the chain. We should not have issues like this. Maybe we are not staffing the department with the right people.

#15    09-09-2011, 10:36 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T when do we understand that something is wrong and needs to be fixed?

#16    09-09-2011, 12:55 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  Let's face it, Merck has never been honest when it comes to this vaccine. I remember when we were at the launch meeting and they were laying out the marketing strategy for Gardasil...You didn't have to be a genius to see that the whole thing stank, from day one... Unless my daughter was a porn star, I would not let her near this vaccine...just get your annual PAP and stay away from crooked Merck and their "breakthrough" products.

#17    09-09-2011, 05:16 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T All the pharma's bend the truth a little. It goes with the business. The issue is that we can't screw up the product during the manufactoring process. We need a better system in place to pick this shit up. I am sure we have a department that checks this crap. They are sleeping behind the wheel. Not only does it screw with my sales, it fucks up getting products through the pipeline because the FDA has no faith in us. The new products is how we make our money.

#18    09-09-2011, 07:01 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  All the pharma's bend the truth a little. It goes with the business. The issue is that we can't screw up the product during the manufactoring process. We need a better system in place to pick this shit up. I am sure we have a department that checks this crap. They are sleeping behind the wheel. Not only does it screw with my sales, it fucks up getting products through the pipeline because the FDA has no faith in us. The new products is how we make our money. The same thing happened to Schering a few years back. Probably why Clarinex took so long to come to market- the FDA does not like to reward slackers and they were definitely not up to it for manufacturing. Hey- Merck manufactures products with foreign particles lately too- maybe the Schering folks took over here!

#19    09-09-2011, 11:38 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T One of the issues is there is little male leadership. QA is dominated by females who just don't get it. The leadership is non existent and needs to be changed. They cost the company big $$$$, to stupid and are out of their league. If this keeps up the 500 million dollar fine 10 years ago will be small.

#20    09-10-2011, 08:41 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T so your writing that they are a bunch of dumb c*nts. I have a hard time disagreeing with that because of all the moronic things the group as done over the years.

#21    09-10-2011, 09:18 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  Seriously, fire everyone in manufacturing, they've been bringing this company down for half a decade now. You'd think Dick Clark coming from manufacturing to be CEO before would mean that division would be rock solid, but it's the opposite. Now, we have legal running everything and destroying innovation and business. Dick Clark held a clipboard and watched tablets being pressed in the 70's at Elkton. Rightly or wrongly, at that site (primarily active ingredient site) those guys in the drug product building were considered to be a cut below the average talent level in MCMD. He is background is very much like a lot of others; university degree, military training, keep the troops and the conveyers running. That's about as far from the art of pharmaceutical manufacturing as you can get. But it forever qualified him as solidly grounded in manufacturing. There are a lot of other leaders in lots of other areas at Merck with similarly shallow resumes that are making decisions for which their vaunted experience is insufficient. It is part of the curse of Merck's golden boy talent process. Pass through quickly on your way and keep leave it behind is the usual track record for the leadership team. If they think heard enough they actually might remember someone from their past that actually did know something useful. And this rapid, shallow leader development is not only in the pharma industry.

#22    09-10-2011, 04:59 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  so your writing that they are a bunch of dumb c*nts. I have a hard time disagreeing with that because of all the moronic things the group as done over the years. Merck does have a history of hiring pretty good R&D people. The problem is the people around R&D have no clue how to run or manage anything. I don't like the way the post was written but I agree with the subject matter within the words.

#23    09-10-2011, 08:27 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T The most depressing thing about these posts is that none of us are surprised that this happened...maybe it's time to cut the cord.

#24    09-10-2011, 09:43 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T how does Willie Deese still have a job? They should cut him and the whole QA crew. If anything should be outsourced that is it. Things can't get any worse. Have you ever tried to have a conversation with anyone from QA in NJ? I have and you wonder how they were ever hired in the first place. Total garbage at best. They did not get their jobs because of intellect. There has to be another reason (wink, wink)

#25    09-10-2011, 10:36 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Willie Deese's job is to outsource as much manufacturing as possible. He can't wait until these sorts of things happen only to external manufacturers.

#26    09-10-2011, 11:40 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T He is a dummy. Manufacturing is only as good as the process and how well quality control detects and corrects issues. If the process and QA is horrible (like it is now) outsourcing will not fix anything. Get competent people in QA and hire experts who know process and outsourcing will not be needed. In the old days everyone at Merck was the best in class regardless of the position. Now we have fools in important positions (QA) that give upper management (fools also) an excuse to move jobs elsewhere. HR, PLEASE READ: clip QA before your job gets outsourced also.

#27    09-11-2011, 08:08 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T The last thing sweet willie would want is accountable people in QA. There is a good chance that he put the most incompetence people there on purpose so the outsourcing can be done quicker. It's called the scorched earth way of managing.

#28    09-11-2011, 03:06 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T I've seen it firsthand - QA spends more of their energy figuring out how to get questionable stuff released than it does getting problems properly fixed so that they will not re-occur. Of course, QA has lots of rules and regulations and SOPs but when push comes to shove, management can always get objections swept aside. If the leaders of the manufacturing group actually had really useful prior experience, they would be 10 X more efficient at spotting serious issues than any outside auditor. And formerly with Merck, if your management spotted deficiencies in your area, such a discovery could be career-threatening. But those outside auditors still are finding things so it must mean only one of three things: The management are clueless about the people, facilities, products, processes, and systems they manage; management is not spending any time looking for deficiencies; or management just doesn't care. Or perhaps all three? God help the general public when its products get 100% supplied from the outside - under (by then) even more under-informed, absentee dimwitted Merck "vigilance". Merck now sells what provides profitable self-convenience - not any real quality.

#29    09-11-2011, 09:47 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  I've seen it firsthand - QA spends more of their energy figuring out how to get questionable stuff released than it does getting problems properly fixed so that they will not re-occur. Of course, QA has lots of rules and regulations and SOPs but when push comes to shove, management can always get objections swept aside. If the leaders of the manufacturing group actually had really useful prior experience, they would be 10 X more efficient at spotting serious issues than any outside auditor. And formerly with Merck, if your management spotted deficiencies in your area, such a discovery could be career-threatening. But those outside auditors still are finding things so it must mean only one of three things: The management are clueless about the people, facilities, products, processes, and systems they manage; management is not spending any time looking for deficiencies; or management just doesn't care. Or perhaps all three? God help the general public when its products get 100% supplied from the outside - under (by then) even more under-informed, absentee dimwitted Merck "vigilance". Merck now sells what provides profitable self-convenience - not any real quality. The issues is QA is a group of people who really don't have what it takes to do such an important job. I don't think they even understand or even care that they can destroy someones life or worse yet a child's. They have a black heart and no soul if they would move a dirty product because they are scared. Old Merck people did what was right and we had a good reputation. Now we are spineless cowards who would put people in harms way for the dollar. I hate to write it but maybe the words cowards and c*nts do describe the Merck QA department.

#30    09-11-2011, 11:25 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Let me help, Willie A Deese started around 2004 at Merck. He is as dumb as a stump. He had to find people less intelligent than himself so he hired complete morons. Then in 2009 the merger happened. SP had plenty of complete idiots who fit that description in QA (especially at Kenilworth headquarters). He wants the process to fail because his game plan is to move all manufacturing outside the USA. The QA people are too stupid to understand that the more bad press we receive, the quicker it will happen. They will be out of work also.

#31    09-12-2011, 07:52 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T The problems at West Point started well before Willie Deese arrived. This is not to say that Willie has the vision it takes to reverse the situation. I would say the erosion of the manufacturing operations started sometime after the ambitious middle management abandoned West Point and Rahway so they could spend time kissing ass in the New Jersey countryside at Whitehouse Station. This change in emphasis soon converted the formerly competent operations groups into transfer lounges for PowerPoint-pushing self-promoters. QA problems are like children run wild problems. Absentee (or utterly ignorant) parents and babysitters.

#32    09-12-2011, 11:56 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T I would love to know the interview process for QA. Finding people more lazy, ignorant, and clueless than Willie is hard to find. I guess they just took the pulse of a candidate and if it came up positive, they were hired. I would love to see how QA managers and workers will find a job after Merck after they are let go.

#33    09-12-2011, 01:20 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  I would love to know the interview process for QA. Finding people more lazy, ignorant, and clueless than Willie is hard to find. I guess they just took the pulse of a candidate and if it came up positive, they were hired. I would love to see how QA managers and workers will find a job after Merck after they are let go. Sad but true. They also probably kept those at Schering who had major problems of their own to help enhance our processes.

#34    09-12-2011, 03:49 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  The issues is QA is a group of people who really don't have what it takes to do such an important job. I don't think they even understand or even care that they can destroy someones life or worse yet a child's. They have a black heart and no soul if they would move a dirty product because they are scared. Old Merck people did what was right and we had a good reputation. Now we are spineless cowards who would put people in harms way for the dollar. I hate to write it but maybe the words cowards and c*nts do describe the Merck QA department. I don’t really care about how they live with themselves or how they sleep at night knowing the people they hurt. I care about the dollar. We have been through tough times before and have always managed to succeed because our reputation was so good. If a customer had a choice of 2 similar drugs we always won outright because we were a safe and reliable company. Because QA and all there major issues we do not have the customers confidence. 15 years ago we would have 90% of the hep-c market just because of who we were. Because of the major screw-ups in production and QA in a comatose state , we have little crap companies take us to the woodshed because we lost the customers confidence in who we are. I have been here 32 years and we used to steamroll all the other companies because our house was in order. Now, as the comic book pogo said “"We have met the enemy and he is us." I guess the pogo comic strip shows my age.

#35    09-12-2011, 06:48 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  I don’t really care about how they live with themselves or how they sleep at night knowing the people they hurt. The people who lie awake at night are the parents of the girls that are hurt. Does anybody here has an idea of what they are going through?? It is not only about production and sales, but also about the harm that has been done.

#36    09-12-2011, 08:26 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T How do we look the mothers in the eye when we know that we are injuring their children. When did we as a company stop caring. What is wrong with this picture. Our products are supposed to help, not harm. What is going to happen when these teenagers realize that Gardasil is what is injuring them and it is because there is trash in the vaccine? First Burnt Plastic, now recombinant HPV DNA.

#37    09-12-2011, 08:42 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T That is why they are a bunch of disgusting human being. I know the fat blond one in NC was let go. What a B*tch.

#38    09-12-2011, 10:38 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  How do we look the mothers in the eye when we know that we are injuring their children. When did we as a company stop caring. What is wrong with this picture. Our products are supposed to help, not harm. What is going to happen when these teenagers realize that Gardasil is what is injuring them and it is because there is trash in the vaccine? First Burnt Plastic, now recombinant HPV DNA. I am in sales or a rep or whatever you want to call me. I love how people think we are the horrible and over-payed people. Now that I think about it, QA are truly scourge of the earth. I just can't imagine how the parent feel right now because QA is such a group of incompetent people. Is it worth the $$$ to, I don't feel like typing

#39    09-12-2011, 11:39 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  I am in sales or a rep or whatever you want to call me. I love how people think we are the horrible and over-payed people. Now that I think about it, QA are truly scourge of the earth. I just can't imagine how the parent feel right now because QA is such a group of incompetent people. Is it worth the $$$ to, I don't feel like typing The QA department should be fired “A sexually naïve girl developed acute juvenile rheumatoid arthritis at age 13 within 24 hours after the third Gardasil™ injection and her blood sample - tested two years later - was found to be positive for HPV DNA by a local clinical laboratory.” A possible connection between HPV DNA in Gardasil™ and leukemia or lymphoma has also been raised 100% results from 13 different lots. Gardasil is not supposed to have any whole virus. It might trigger some of the autoimmune-based inflammatory disorders and malignant tumors observed among children/young women after receiving Gardasil.

#40    09-13-2011, 08:18 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Wake up people. Merck cheats in all aspects of the business. Tax, sales, production, R&D, clinical filing. The data is just too consistent to think that Billion-dollar fines for tax evasion, Medicare fraud, Consent Decrees, HPV contamination, and Vioxx are isolated incidents. Better perfect your cheating skills and get with the program or get the hell out. New Merck's reputation is 180 degrees away from its legacy namesake's reputation.

#41    09-13-2011, 09:11 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T If you want to fudge the numbers on taxes, sales and marketing by all means do it. Don’t destroy a child’s life. It’s not like cheating on a test during college. If QA can sit by while this is going on they should not be there. If you’re a manager and you don’t have the courage to lead people and speak your mind on issues, maybe you’re not the right person for the job. Maybe they hired people who don’t understand the ramification of what they do. I love Merck but maybe I am things that new merck is old merck. I would love to know how the QA people sleep at night after hearing about this news? If well, they are nothing more that garbage whose life’s are so empty and void of meaning that they will never find happiness no matter what they do in life. They have the morals of a filthy pig.

#42    09-13-2011, 10:29 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T This is making me crazy!! As a former Merck rep that has followed this vaccine since launch, I am continually agitated of the strong arm and big $$$ incentive/persuasion politically has kept the consumer and healthcare provider uninformed of the risk/benefit quotient. Shame on the politicians in states that have mandated this vaccine for school age girls.... another of the "herd" vaccines. When I took my two daughters for their vaccine updates two weeks ago, I listened to the pedatrician's "recommended" presentation for the HPV vaccine. And asked a few questions to see how knowledgeable." How many women died last year from Cervical Cancer?" Her answer was "24". lol..24 plus maybe 3 more zeros would be a little more accurate. "So, Doctor, you want every 11 year old girl to get a vaccine with all the risks/side effects(possible life threatening/limited in vivo study data/unknown age to booster) to prevent 24 cervical cancer deaths? Of which cervical cancer deaths are generally in older women and my daughter would have many years before in that risk category?". I would like to tell these pediatricians I would regard their wisdom as intelligent and highly educated health professionals sans the robotic verbage from the pharma. Interestingly, not one comment on the risks/benefits or "fair balance" as we call it. As an informed consumer, I am challenged in even trusting these physicians with my and my children's health. But I point the finger at our government, big pharma and the mighty $$$$. The daughter of a woman I work with is suffering from serious disorders that came on after her Gardisil vaccine. They have contacted Merck and all sorts of govt. agencies to report and seeking help. Of course, denial it is related. We are only the little people. But, please be an informed consumer in your choice to the benefit of your child getting this vaccine. Read, read, read and do not depend on anyone else looking after your/your children's health and welfare.

#43    09-13-2011, 01:57 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T It is called blood money. Not only is it a bad drug that was pushed for political reasons, QA cannot pickup extremely harmful issues. I wonder if the people in QA are confident enough to get their children the injections? I think not because that blood money is too close to home.

#44    09-13-2011, 04:45 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  how does Willie Deese still have a job? They should cut him and the whole QA crew. If anything should be outsourced that is it. Things can't get any worse. Have you ever tried to have a conversation with anyone from QA in NJ? I have and you wonder how they were ever hired in the first place. Total garbage at best. They did not get their jobs because of intellect. There has to be another reason (wink, wink) If the upper management is looking for something on the side I will give them 1000$ to go get a prostitute. This way they can hire good managers and people for QA rather than whoring them out through Merck. Merck has become a brothel now and it’s destroying children. I miss old Merck. It's a good investment because it will save people.

#45    09-13-2011, 06:29 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T I can tell you 5 years ago the story of the day was how many affairs the married woman there had with other men (merck and non merck). I don't know how it is now. Something tell me it has not changed.

#46    09-13-2011, 08:16 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T How do you think the kenilworth inn stays in business? That place is a dump.

#47    09-13-2011, 08:18 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T how do you think the kenilworth inn stays in business. Thanks to QA

#48    09-13-2011, 10:00 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T It does explain a lot as far as the QA department but they were not the only ones. They may have had the most activity but there were also a lot of other people. I felt bad because I knew some of the spouses.

#49    Yesterday, 12:08 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T 1. Previous post: It's not news. It has been that way for the last 10 years. It does explain how the QA managers received their jobs. It is funny how they try to hide the obvious but it none of my business 2. Gardasil is actually a safe product. There have been very few documented major issues with it. There are side effects but all drug have them. It has been through many regulatory agencies and even with the bad press, no one is moving to take it off the market. 3. The Gardasil that has DNA Contamination is a issue. It can have very adverse effect on children. What is most disturbing is the 13 samples came from different lots. It will not have a good outcome but I hope it is not extremely bad. Time will tell. The manufacturing and QA department really needs a overhaul. I am not to judge moral characters but when something like this happens it does make you wonder. There is no way QA did not pick this up. They just ignored it and hoped it would not bubble up. They were wrong and something needs to be done. William Deese should have been let go 3 months after he was hired. He does not bring anything to the table and has made things worse. At best he should only be purchasing ingredients and that is a stretch. QA needs some help. I don't thing the proper leaders are in management positions. It's a tough job and you need a certain type of personality to run it. It's one of the few departments that can cause major damage. It is clear there is no check and balances or they are being ignored. I am not in sales but I do feel bad for them. They now need to focus their energy on damage control rather than selling and pitching information to customers. What is sad is that this could have been avoided if the proper people were in place.

#50    Yesterday, 09:56 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T So the issue is how long has this DNA Contamination been out on the market? Maybe it just started and they tested 13 lots and just got lucky. The rest could be OK and therfor no issues?

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#51    Yesterday, 10:05 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  If you want to fudge the numbers on taxes, sales and marketing by all means do it. Don’t destroy a child’s life. It’s not like cheating on a test during college. If QA can sit by while this is going on they should not be there. If you’re a manager and you don’t have the courage to lead people and speak your mind on issues, maybe you’re not the right person for the job. Maybe they hired people who don’t understand the ramification of what they do. I love Merck but maybe I am things that new merck is old merck. I would love to know how the QA people sleep at night after hearing about this news? If well, they are nothing more that garbage whose life’s are so empty and void of meaning that they will never find happiness no matter what they do in life. They have the morals of a filthy pig. You've worked here how long? And you haven't wondered even just once if perhaps you no longer fitted the current Merck ethical culture?

#52    Yesterday, 10:12 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  1. Previous post: It's not news. It has been that way for the last 10 years. It does explain how the QA managers received their jobs. It is funny how they try to hide the obvious but it none of my business 2. Gardasil is actually a safe product. There have been very few documented major issues with it. There are side effects but all drug have them. It has been through many regulatory agencies and even with the bad press, no one is moving to take it off the market. 3. The Gardasil that has DNA Contamination is a issue. It can have very adverse effect on children. What is most disturbing is the 13 samples came from different lots. It will not have a good outcome but I hope it is not extremely bad. Time will tell. The manufacturing and QA department really needs a overhaul. I am not to judge moral characters but when something like this happens it does make you wonder. There is no way QA did not pick this up. They just ignored it and hoped it would not bubble up. They were wrong and something needs to be done. William Deese should have been let go 3 months after he was hired. He does not bring anything to the table and has made things worse. At best he should only be purchasing ingredients and that is a stretch. QA needs some help. I don't thing the proper leaders are in management positions. It's a tough job and you need a certain type of personality to run it. It's one of the few departments that can cause major damage. It is clear there is no check and balances or they are being ignored. I am not in sales but I do feel bad for them. They now need to focus their energy on damage control rather than selling and pitching information to customers. What is sad is that this could have been avoided if the proper people were in place. If there is HPV DNA in 100% of 13-14 separate lots of Gardasil, it is there because the process cannot remove it. So it probably is being made perfectly - perfectly badly that is. So it also means that this DNA was always there and it was there when the process was filed with the regulators. Talk to those Merck geniuses responsible for filing this product about how they missed this contaminant. It seems that those repsonsible in R&D and registration (and by extension upper management) are applying the same standards that made Vioxx such a big success (for the legal profession).

#53    Yesterday, 01:55 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  If you want to fudge the numbers on taxes, sales and marketing by all means do it. Don’t destroy a child’s life. It’s not like cheating on a test during college. If QA can sit by while this is going on they should not be there. If you’re a manager and you don’t have the courage to lead people and speak your mind on issues, maybe you’re not the right person for the job. Maybe they hired people who don’t understand the ramification of what they do. I love Merck but maybe I am things that new merck is old merck. I would love to know how the QA people sleep at night after hearing about this news? If well, they are nothing more that garbage whose life’s are so empty and void of meaning that they will never find happiness no matter what they do in life. They have the morals of a filthy pig. I like the filthy pig comment. That is the ultimate description of the QA department at Merck. Maybe they need the Gardasil injections. They could go total retard and no one would notice the difference.

#54    Yesterday, 02:46 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  If there is HPV DNA in 100% of 13-14 separate lots of Gardasil, it is there because the process cannot remove it. So it probably is being made perfectly - perfectly badly that is. So it also means that this DNA was always there and it was there when the process was filed with the regulators. Talk to those Merck geniuses responsible for filing this product about how they missed this contaminant. It seems that those repsonsible in R&D and registration (and by extension upper management) are applying the same standards that made Vioxx such a big success (for the legal profession). Gardasil Patient Product Inserts stated that there is ‘no viral DNA’ in the Gardasil vaccine. That is until April 2011 – when the line was glaringly absent from U.S. product inserts. I like the filthy pig comment also. This is a very colorful thread.

#55    Yesterday, 05:24 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  I like the filthy pig comment. That is the ultimate description of the QA department at Merck. Maybe they need the Gardasil injections. They could go total retard and no one would notice the difference. They got the injection years ago during the trial study. Why do you think they don't do anything and collect a paycheck.

#56    Yesterday, 11:29 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  Gardasil Patient Product Inserts stated that there is ‘no viral DNA’ in the Gardasil vaccine. That is until April 2011 – when the line was glaringly absent from U.S. product inserts. I like the filthy pig comment also. This is a very colorful thread. Where did you acquire this information? It's easily perceived and understood you are or were employed at Merck. Such knowledge of specific and timely events or situations clearly should not be communicated in any format. There is no merit to such a declaration and should not be perceived as fact.

#57    Yesterday, 11:48 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T what does that mean? I don't understand the quote and I really don't understand the reply to the quote. I got where did you get that infomation part but that's about it.

#58    Yesterday, 11:59 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  Where did you acquire this information? It's easily perceived and understood you are or were employed at Merck. Such knowledge of specific and timely events or situations clearly should not be communicated in any format. There is no merit to such a declaration and should not be perceived as fact. What a silly comment. Gardasil product information is all over internet, and in way back machine. Doesn't take a genius to find it all, just someone using a mouse in Google. It's pretty obvious when you look back through all the years of information that something is up - when all American product material suddenly dropped the no dna bit earlier this year. Maybe QA actually realised something was wrong, and was doing a CMA.

#59    Today, 07:26 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  What a silly comment. Gardasil product information is all over internet, and in way back machine. Doesn't take a genius to find it all, just someone using a mouse in Google. It's pretty obvious when you look back through all the years of information that something is up - when all American product material suddenly dropped the no dna bit earlier this year. Maybe QA actually realised something was wrong, and was doing a CMA. Quite possibly the DNA is present at very low (formerly undetectable?) levels and always has been. But maybe someone finally got sufficiently interested in developing a better test. If the DNA is now being found because of a more efficient test, one might safely bet that the test was not developed or applied due to Merck's initiative. Not looking for trouble when they ought to defines Merck (and most of pharma today) and particularly Merck's QA. Taking potential contamination references out of inserts isn't going to happen without FDA approval. If this insert statement is a fact, where was the FDA in all this?

#60    Today, 08:58 AM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  What a silly comment. Gardasil product information is all over internet, and in way back machine. Doesn't take a genius to find it all, just someone using a mouse in Google. It's pretty obvious when you look back through all the years of information that something is up - when all American product material suddenly dropped the no dna bit earlier this year. Maybe QA actually realised something was wrong, and was doing a CMA. European Medicine Agency Pag. 6 Mechanism of Action Gardasil is an adjuvanted non-infectious recombinant quadrivalent vaccine prepared from the highly purified virus-like particles (VLPs) of the major capsid L1 protein of HPV types 6, 11, 16 and 18. The VLPs contain no viral DNA, they cannot infect cells, reproduce or cause disease. HPV only infects humans, but animal studies with analogous papillomaviruses suggest that the efficacy of LI VLP vaccines is mediated by the development of a humoral immune response. http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/...C500021142.pdf SANOFI Pasteur MSD Pag. 6 Mechanism of Action Gardasil is an adjuvanted non-infectious recombinant quadrivalent vaccine prepared from the highly purified virus-like particles (VLPs) of the major capsid L1 protein of HPV types 6, 11, 16 and 18. The VLPs contain no viral DNA, they cannot infect cells, reproduce or cause disease. HPV only infects humans, but animal studies with analogous papillomaviruses suggest that the efficacy of LI VLP vaccines is mediated by the development of a humoral immune response. http://www.spmsdregistregrossesses.c...C_Gardasil.pdf Merck pag 14 Mechanism of Action HPV only infects human beings. Animal studies with analogous animal papillomaviruses suggest that the efficacy of L1 VLP vaccines may involve the development of humoral immune responses. Human beings develop a humoral immune response to the vaccine, although the exact mechanism of protection is unknown. http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...ardasil_pi.pdf Merckfrosst Canada Pag 20 Mechanism of Action GARDASIL® contains L1 VLPs, which are proteins that resemble wild-type virions. Because the virus-like particles contain no viral DNA, they cannot infect cells or reproduce. HPV only infects humans, but animal studies with analogous animal papillomaviruses suggest that the efficacy of L1 VLP vaccines is mediated by the development of humoral immune responses. http://www.merckfrosst.ca/assets/en/...DASIL-PM_E.pdf

#61    Today, 12:41 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T Quote: Originally Posted by Anonymous  Not looking for trouble when they ought to defines Merck (and most of pharma today) and particularly Merck's QA. Taking potential contamination references out of inserts isn't going to happen without FDA approval. If this insert statement is a fact, where was the FDA in all this? Another silly question. Best person to ask is our current ex-CDC head of VD. How many of our top management comes from ex-regulators?... Of course FDA would know.

#62    Today, 02:33 PM

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Re: SANE Vax, Inc. Reports Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Contamination in Gardasil T It's easily perceived and understood you are or were employed at Merck. Such knowledge of specific and timely events or situations clearly should not be communicated in any format. There is no merit to such a declaration and should not be perceived as fact. This was not common information but easy to get. This was the same thing going around with the whole vioxx issue. The first thing that the lawyers do is a discovery process. Going through the internet, see what was sent out in order to find out what case Merck will have. The more information given, the harder the defense is. It's all about what you can hide and what the public thinks. Vioxx case had email issues and other information where they were posted on the web. This is some jerk off that is associated with Merck making some useless reminder about putting things on the web. Maybe Merck does not understand that we have many disgruntle employees who would love to stick it right up Merck’s ass. Also this is Anonymous.

Antidepressants Associated with Autism

Antidepressants associated with autism. — Environmental Health News

Antidepressant Use During Pregnancy and Childhood Autism Spectrum Disorders
Lisa A. Croen, PhD; Judith K. Grether, PhD; Cathleen K. Yoshida, MS; Roxana Odouli, MSPH; Victoria Hendrick, MD
Arch Gen Psychiatry. Published online July 4, 2011. doi:10.1001/archgenpsychiatry.2011.73

Context The prevalence of autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) has increased over recent years. Use of antidepressant medications during pregnancy also shows a secular increase in recent decades, prompting concerns that prenatal exposure may contribute to increased risk of ASD.

Objective To systematically evaluate whether prenatal exposure to antidepressant medications is associated with increased risk of ASD.

Design Population-based case-control study. Medical records were used to ascertain case children and control children and to derive prospectively recorded information on mothers' use of antidepressant medications, mental health history of mothers, and demographic and medical covariates.

Setting The Kaiser Permanente Medical Care Program in Northern California.

Participants A total of 298 case children with ASD (and their mothers) and 1507 randomly selected control children (and their mothers) drawn from the membership of the Kaiser Permanente Medical Care Program in Northern California.

Main Outcome Measures ASDs.

Results Prenatal exposure to antidepressant medications was reported for 20 case children (6.7%) and 50 control children (3.3%). In adjusted logistic regression models, we found a 2-fold increased risk of ASD associated with treatment with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors by the mother during the year before delivery (adjusted odds ratio, 2.2 [95% confidence interval, 1.2-4.3]), with the strongest effect associated with treatment during the first trimester (adjusted odds ratio, 3.8 [95% confidence interval, 1.8-7.8]). No increase in risk was found for mothers with a history of mental health treatment in the absence of prenatal exposure to selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

Conclusion Although the number of children exposed prenatally to selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors in this population was low, results suggest that exposure, especially during the first trimester, may modestly increase the risk of ASD. The potential risk associated with exposure must be balanced with the risk to the mother or fetus of untreated mental health disorders. Further studies are needed to replicate and extend these findings.


Author Affiliations: Division of Research, Kaiser Permanente Northern California, Oakland (Dr Croen and Mss Yoshida and Odouli), Environmental Health Investigations Branch, California Department of Public Health, Richmond (Dr Grether), and Department of Psychiatry, Neuropsychiatric Institute and Hospital, University of California, Los Angeles (Dr Hendrick).

In Washington, No One Can Hear You Scream

No one has been more raw and transparent in telling the world what autism does to a mother, and a family, than LJ Goes. She lays herself out bare for the world to see.

Autism: Destroying America, One Family at a Time.
by Lisa Joyce Goes on Saturday, September 10, 2011 at 8:29am

If there is such a thing, I have the near ideal situation for having a child with autism. When I explained Noah had the "a" word to my husband, Dave, on a sunny and snowy morning two days after Christmas, 2008, his words were, "We'll get through this. Now we know. What do we have to do to get him better?" Of course, neither one of us knew then what we were in for, but that was irrelevant to me. Right then and there I knew it wasn't just me fighting this fight. More importantly I knew I wasn't going to have to fight him. I knew were were a team. We immediately spread the word and our extended families not only jumped on board, they took up the cause as their own. Most of our friends who do not get it remain with us and do not judge. Those who do are no longer a part of our lives, their absence barely noticeable after the initial sting. Except for the excessive wealth required to reverse the iatrogenic effects of vaccine encephalopathy, mitochondrial disease and leaky gut that lay hidden like snipers under the deceptive catch-all term of autism, my life is rather well structured to deal with the reality of a chronically ill child.

Even so...

This weekend marked the ordination of my father-in-law as a deacon in the Joliet Diocese. This event is big doings for Catholics as literally hundreds of priests and deacons attend the ceremony to usher in the newcomers. Family members and friends are given tickets that represent various levels of importance and each seat in St. Raymond's Cathedral is considered a prized possession. A very big deal indeed, with a weekend full of events that followed. Say what you will about my kind--unarguably, we know how to party. All my brothers and sisters-in-law came in with their families from their various stations across the country for this special once in a lifetime occasion. One by one they trickled in. Rooms set up, bags unpacked, kiddos playing, cocktails in hand, we were all ready to share some much needed quality time together under one roof. Just like old times.

Except, things were different now. You can't use the door off the kitchen to go out for a smoke because Noah can hear that door open from any room in the house. It is a guaranteed 20 minute melt-down that usually requires a bath to re-focus. If you find the itouch on the floor you have to pick it up and charge it. At no time can we have a dead itouch. No, you can't go in the garage to the beverage fridge if Noah is within your sight. He will run to the car, open the door and expect to go somewhere--usually the park, school, or Starbuck's. A bath doesn't fix this one. Someone is getting coffee or going to the park--either way, it is an hour long commitment to stave off the mother of all tantrums. If you are going down to the basement you absolutely positively MUST bungee the gate to the stairs. Yes, even if you are just going down for just a sec. You MUST ALWAYS double lock the front door and top lock it. ALWAYS. Noah can't have chips, strawberries, a doughnut, just one m&m, or just one bite of pizza. No, that juice is not organic. I know it says it is, but that's a lie. A little bit of gluten is like a little bit of heroin and it is in everything. Yes it is. Even that lotion. The play-doh, too.

Our family did their very best in every way. No dismissive eye-rolls, just 100% compliance. My sisters-in-law developed a vigilance over Noah that warmed my heart. I overheard my husband's sister, Laura, randomly telling our guests to make sure they watch their food and watch him to make sure he doesn't get any. How I truly love these people. The problem is, a life with autism is such a departure from regular life it is impossible to memorize all the rules in such a short period of time. I found myself absent from conversations, obsessing over Noah's whereabouts and repeatedly ticking off his biomed schedule in my head. "Did I give him his morning dose of chelator?" What's this about my brother-in-law and sister-in-law moving? "Did he get the Tyrosine or did I forget?" My new brother-in-law is going to be deployed for active duty in September? When did this happen? "Why in God's name is his poop yellow again, I thought we were done with the clostridia?"

The big day arrived and our legions of childcare professionals showed up to assist so we could all be present for the ceremony. We watched from our coveted row as my father-in-law walked up the center aisle along side his beaming bride, ready to accept his sacred post in the Diaconate. Dave remarked on the way home how he had enjoyed the tradition of it all, how proud he was of his dad, what a great thing this was. I guess so. I wasn't there. I was plotting my next move, trying to remember all the points of entry at the reception site. All grandkids were invited to the reception. I changed out of my high heels, dressed the kids, packed Noah's special food and headed to the restaurant. Within minutes of arrival Dave and I were having the usual debate. "No, you stay." "No really, you stay, I got to stay last time..." I insisted I go because it's his family, his dad, and on a day like this it was important that he be there. My good friend Krisan offered to come with, but she stayed back to take care for our other two kids so I could go to the ceremony, so I declined her offer. Off I went, alone, with a stimming, inconsolable and sick 4 year old.

Bad decision.

Noah could not stop screaming and he wriggled out of his car seat. This development coupled with his new found talent for unlocking car doors and opening them when the car is in motion has lead me to experience perpetual anxiety while in the driver's seat. Eyes on the road, eyes on him. Eyes on the road, eyes on him. He began thrashing with a ferocious intensity that reached a crescendo of unmatched proportions. Normally, I would pull the car over and sit in silence until he could regulate himself, letting the car seat do it's job. Normally, I would calmly tell him everything was going to be okay and I loved him and I was going to get him home just as soon as I could. Normally, three things: his itouch, his bottle and a balloon, would have expedited his return to earth.

Nothing was working. So I snapped. Not in a good way. Not in a break-through, cathartic way. In a shameful, horrible, awful, disgusting way. I screamed at the windshield like a bloody banshee. Like an institutionalized, restrained schizophrenic, neurotic, delusional crazy person. Because that's what I felt like--like a trapped little rat in a life that was swallowing me whole--and I was powerless to do anything about it. Like someone was stabbing me with a meat cleaver and instead of killing me, each tear of my flesh made me louder, stronger and angrier. I did it over and over and over until I pulled into the garage, appalled at my own lack of self-control. I imagine for Noah it was something like a tween child catching a loyal and loving parent in the act of an affair. All at once realizing their hero is fallen, human and capable of repulsive things.

I scared the daylights out of him and elicited his first genuine spontaneous inquiry. In the form of a complete sentence, thank you very much.

"Why? Why er you screaming, mama?"

Normally, this is where the comic relief, Goes-style comes in. I could hear my husband, "Wow, you scream like you're burning from the inside out and he kicks out some serious language. That's the problem, we should have been yelling like this from the get go. All this ABA and therapy crap, putting us in the poor house. You need to lose it more often babe--you got him to talk--FOR FREE!" But Dave wasn't here to bring me back. He was at the party with the rest of our family. I was sitting with a screaming child in a steaming hot car in a filthy garage. Him there. Me here--with the smell from the poop bucket permeating the car. There is nothing quite so foul as the excrement of diseased bowels. I also just realized I left my daughter, Mads and son, Liam, without even saying goodbye. In fact, my last words to them were, "We are going to have such a great time celebrating CoCo (their word for grandpa) today!" I pictured Liam realizing I wasn't there and saying to Dave, "Where mama go, Dad?" and him responding as he has hundreds of times, "Mom is with Noah." I could see our smart little man reflecting on this. "Mom is always with Noah. Where is my mom? I want my own mom, not Noah's mom." I searched and searched for the humor but couldn't find it. My uncontrollable screams unleashed a flood of disappointment and despair. We sat in the car for several minutes, our chests heaving like two werewolves who'd just returned from the hunt. Something had just changed in me and I wanted to stay strapped down until I could figure it out. The idea of entering my empty house full of remnants of happy house guests seemed utterly despicable.

"I am crying because mommy has nothing left Noah. Nothing left. I am really, really...I guess...tired. I'm really tired."

He started yelling...not an autism yell...more of a singing shout, "Oh Jesus. Jeeeee-sus. Mama crying. You sad. Yooooou sad. Oh no, oh no, oh no, mama cry." The end sounded exactly like Cartman from Southpark singing Elvis Presley's "In the Ghetto". "On a cold and gray Chicago mornin', another little baby boy was born--in the ghetto...and his mama cr-i-i-i-ed." Finally, a little comic relief.

The image of my beautiful daughter in the pristine silk dress I bought her for this special day, my screams, the tone of Noah's sing-song voice and the reflection of his tear stained face in my rear view mirror all meshed together in my head. A popular mantra among active participants in the autism culture, "keep calm and carry on," came to mind. At least I could still make good on the second part. Noah wasn't sure he could trust me after my banshee tirade. The sounds I made were positively primeval. Other worldly. Spooky. He clocked me a couple times and tore my necklace off. Moms, especially autism moms, should not act the way I did. No matter what. We are held to a standard of consistency and perfection that even the most anal type A over-achiever could only hope to attain. I messed up, big time.

I turned around to look at him in his seat. "Sorry buddy, bad day."

"Park! Park!" He shouted. Great. We know what we have to do to calm down. Progress. We spent the remainder of our afternoon at the park, where he pushed me on a swing for the first time. More progress. We returned home and were greeted by family members and friends with sad faces. God what I would give not to be pitied by the people I respect. This was not at all like old times, I thought.

When Dave returned I reported the events as they happened, as I always do. He usually makes light of everything--not in a dismissive way--in a way that brings order and calm. This is one of his great talents as a leader and a husband. What happened, happened, we are still here. We will move forward, like we always do. I was waiting for it. The hug, the "it's okay, we'll get through this." Not this time. This time he was withdrawn and angry. Almost like, he didn't want to hear it. Because he didn't. He was tired, too. Finally he said, "We are a family. We can't even be together one time...not one time...all of us." He nailed it. The reason for my screams. The reason for my rage. Not one time...together...as a family...all of us. Apparently at this time in our lives, this is simply too much to ask.

The kicker? The more research I do, the more doctors and nurses I meet and the more tests results we have coming back--all these efforts have confirmed for us that Noah's medical condition, the one written off as autism, was entirely avoidable. This did not have to be. Yet, it is.

Now please...please do something with this information. By that, I do not mean flood my facebook page with good wishes and inspiring stories of hope. Not that I don't appreciate your kindness--I truly do. I just need for you to understand the point of these incredibly personal posts so you can get to work on the problem. We are extremely fortunate. Noah is extremely fortunate. We have family, friends, a remarkable school system and paid professionals that help us care for him. Despite this level of care, this level of service, parenting a child with several iatrogenic chronic illnesses that are mistaken for autism is extraordinarily isolating. Consider this story without the loving husband. The supportive family. The good friends and child-care professionals. Just...imagine. This is what life is like for many parents of children with autism. No support, no care, no help, no respite, no relief. No spouse. NO FAITH. No one believes them. NO ONE BELIEVES THEM!!! Desperate parents clamoring to be heard, dying to hear their 16 year old speak for the first time. Desperate not to be the ONLY PERSON who is changing their 20 year old, 200 lbs., adult child's diapers, day in and day out. It seems reasonable that screams may be an everyday part of life rather than the exception under such circumstances. No kind sentiments or inspirational words can alleviate this sort of constant stress and perpetual suffering. Only real service and REAL JUSTICE can do that. How do we make that happen, you ask? Read Age of Autism and visit the Canary Party to find out.

LJ Goes is Managing Partner of The Misuta Project, a Contributing Editor to Age of Autism, and Executive Board Member of the Illinois Canary Party

"Do us all a favor, Autism Speaks. Shut up, shut down and go away."

... Dan Olmsted in his piece The Awful Truth about Autism Speaks.

Just wanted to second his motion.  Autism Speaks is total joke and is hurting children not yet born with their prostitution to the establishment. They have spent hundreds of millions of dollars and have not helped our children at all.

ASD, GI, Immune Abnormalities

Children with autism spectrum disorders (ASD) who exhibit chronic gastrointestinal (GI) symptoms and marked fluctuation of behavioral symptoms exhibit distinct innate immune abnormalities and transcriptional profiles of peripheral blood (PB) monocytes 

Harumi Jyonouchia, Lee Genga, Deanna L. Streckb and Gokce A. Torunerb

Division of Allergy/Immunology and Infection Diseases, Department of Pediatrics, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey (UMDNJ)-New Jersey Medical School (NJMS), 185 South Orange Ave, Newark, NJ, United States

Institute of Genomic Medicine, Department of Pediatrics, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey (UMDNJ)-New Jersey Medical School (NJMS), 185 South Orange Ave, Newark, NJ, United States

Received 16 February 2011; revised 26 June 2011; accepted 6 July 2011. Available online 30 July 2011.

Abstract

Innate/adaptive immune responses and transcript profiles of peripheral blood monocytes were studied in ASD children who exhibit fluctuating behavioral symptoms following infection and other immune insults (ASD/Inf, N = 30). The ASD/Inf children with persistent gastrointestinal symptoms (ASD/Inf + GI, N = 19), revealed less production of proinflammatory and counter-regulatory cytokines with stimuli of innate immunity and marked changes in transcript profiles of monocytes as compared to ASD/no-Inf (N = 28) and normal (N = 26) controls. This included a 4–5 fold up-regulation of chemokines (CCL2 and CCL7), consistent with the production of more CCL2 by ASD/Inf + GI cells. These results indicate dysregulated innate immune defense in the ASD/Inf + GI children, rendering them more vulnerable to common microbial infection/dysbiosis and possibly subsequent behavioral changes.

Ancestry of Pink Disease (Infantile Acrodynia) a Risk Factor for Autism

Ancestry of pink disease (infantile acrodynia) identified as a risk factor for autism spectrum disorders.

J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2011 Sep 15;74(18):1185-94. Shandley K, Austin DW.

Swinburne Autism Bio-Research Initiative (SABRI), Brain and Psychological Sciences Research Centre , Swinburne University of Technology , Hawthorn , Victoria , Australia.

Abstract
Pink disease (infantile acrodynia) was especially prevalent in the first half of the 20th century. Primarily attributed to exposure to mercury (Hg) commonly found in teething powders, the condition was developed by approximately 1 in 500 exposed children. The differential risk factor was identified as an idiosyncratic sensitivity to Hg. Autismspectrum disorders (ASD) have also been postulated to be produced by Hg. Analogous to the pink disease experience, Hg exposure is widespread yet only a fraction of exposed children develop an ASD, suggesting sensitivity to Hg may also be present in children with an ASD. The objective of this study was to test the hypothesis that individuals with a known hypersensitivity to Hg (pink disease survivors) may be more likely to have descendants with an ASD. Five hundred and twenty-two participants who had previously been diagnosed with pink disease completed a survey on the health outcomes of their descendants. The prevalence rates of ASD and a variety of other clinical conditions diagnosed in childhood (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, epilepsy, Fragile X syndrome, and Down syndrome) were compared to well-established general population prevalence rates. The results showed the prevalence rate of ASD among the grandchildren of pink disease survivors (1 in 22) to be significantly higher than the comparable general population prevalence rate (1 in 160). The results support the hypothesis that Hg sensitivity may be a heritable/genetic risk factor for ASD.

Revisiting James Murdoch, Brian Deer, The Sunday Times, GlaxoSmithKline and the Attack on Andrew Wakefield

So I started writing a long piece on the James Murdoch/Sunday Times/GSK/Wakefield development, but Dan Olmsted and John Stone did it faster and better than I, so I will just point you there and add my .02.  Which is...

How long does this ridiculous charade have to go on?!

I mean how many of those who have quite obviously be put to task defending an indefensible vaccine program have to be revealed as... well... less than earnest, by main stream sources, before those earnest people in the medical profession, who really care about health outcomes and the public trust, throw up their hands and say... "Well... yes... this has become quite absurd.  Let's stop all the nonsense and sit down at the table with our critics and deal with the real problems."

Let's make a short list of the industry protectionist standard bearers at the various levels and their credibility... well let's call them "weaknesses."

Julie Gerberding:  Claims that she never bothered to read the Poling case, that vaccines can and cannot cause autism, that children with mitochondrial disorders can develop "autism like syndrome" from their vaccines, then upon leaving her post at CDC became the head of vaccines for Merck, who makes the MMR vaccine that damaged Hannah Poling.

Paul Offit: Reprimanded by Congress for his conflicts of interest, successfully sued by the head of Jenny McCarthy's charity for lying about him in a book, had the OC Register retract an article where he made false accusations against CBS News, makes stupid and irresponsible claims that a baby can safely receive 100,000 vaccines at once, gets caught misleading the public and failing to disclose conflicts of interest on a regular basis.

David Gorski: Forgot to mention that he was developing a cancer/autism drug for vaccine maker Sanofi for like five years or something while attacking vaccine safety activists and autism treatment advocates.

Paul Thorsen:  Middle aged club kid under indictment for conspiracy and fraud.

Brian Deer: Lied to families about his name to get them to agree to interviews, feels qualified to diagnose GI disorders on the street despite having no medical background, does not even know the basics of the vaccine causation arguments or who is on what side, routinely says things that are at best, embarrassing, at worst, suggest some ... issues.

Seth Mnookin:  An admitted criminal.

GlaxoSmithKline: Who has the time. Just google "Glaxo Fraud."

And now James Murdoch and the Sunday Times.

Lets take a step into the way back machine and revisit my little chart on the obnoxious level of conflict of interest in those who were... *ahem* protecting the British people's interest by examining the conflicts of interest of Dr. Wakefield and his co-authors in a paper that pointed out that 8 kids started having serious GI problems after MMR and also had developmental disabilities. I have faded out the later comers to the game to focus on the players who started all this bother:

Click to see it full sized

We have of course been pointing out Murdoch's little credibility problem with being placed on the board of GlaxoSmithKline after his Sunday Times began the whole Wakefield attack, but of course, we were just conspiracy theorists for pointing out that little conflict of interest. How dare we impugne the integrity of blah, blah, blah...

So now we learn that Murdoch the Younger is not above doing horrid, and bottom feeder like things to make a buck.  Possibly not even illegally obtaining the private medical information of the child of the leader of his country. If Mr. Brown's son's cystic fibrosis is not something to be handled sacredly, earnestly and above board, what's next, having reporters lie about who they are to autism parents to get info for a hit piece on their doctor?  Oh... never mind.

But no fear for Murdoch that GSK will turn on him... despite his failing morality, he still far exceeds the standards of respectability required to be a board member of GSK, who is standing behind their man for all he has done for their company:

James Murdoch to remain on GSK's board

* Drugmaker says Murdoch has made strong contribution

* Investigations need to run their course

* News Corp executive also sits on Sotheby's board

By Ben Hirschler

LONDON, July 15 (Reuters) - GlaxoSmithKline , Britain's biggest drugmaker, said James Murdoch continued to serve as a non-executive director, and it would watch investigations into the phone-hacking scandal engulfing his family's newspaper business.

The 38-year-old heir apparent to his father Rupert Mordoch's News Corp joined GSK's board in 2009, since when he has made "a strong contribution", a GSK spokesman said on Friday.

In recent days, James Murdoch's reputation has taken a pummelling, with critics saying he was too slow to realise the enormity of the scandal at News International, the British newspaper unit he chairs.

GSK -- a group with plenty of experience of corporate controversy, ranging from rows over executive pay to safety alarms about some of its medicines -- will watch developments closely and is not rushing to any judgments.

"With regard to the activities that are alleged to have taken place at News International, we believe that the full facts must be established and the ongoing investigations be allowed to take place and come to a considered conclusion," the spokesman said.

James Murdoch was paid 98,000 pounds ($158,000) in shares for serving on GSK's board in 2010. He is member of both the drugmaker's corporate responsibility and remuneration committees.

He is also a non-executive director of U.S.-listed auction house Sotheby's .

The News International chairman said on Friday his company would take out adverts in rival British newspapers this weekend to apologise to the nation for wrongdoing at the News of the World, the Sunday paper at the centre of the scandal. ($1 = 0.620 pound) (Editing by Dan Lalor)

(Note that the story is published by Reuters, whose CEO is also on the board of Merck. That other MMR maker. Conspirators Corporate Synergists must stick together, you know)

He has made one hell of a contribution!  He made the salvation of MMR possible.  GSK can't very well abandon their hit man.  If he falls completely, then might more people wake up to the idea that what was done to Wakefield was a scapegoating?  Best to see if you can get away with keeping him on to assure your "corporate responsibility", and hope no one notices that you are trying to keep him propped up to keep your skeletons in the closet.

Can anyone name ONE person who has been out in front in the vaccine defense that actually has a good reputation, is an earnest person and is free of serious conflicts of interest?  I can't think of any at the moment.

So... when the next one pops up, I am going to start the clock running and see how long it takes for their questionable history to start to come to light.

It is just stupid at this point.

131 African Children Vaccinated at Gunpoint. Do Bill Gates and Paul Offit Approve?

The Malawi Voice is reporting that a group of families who took their children out of the country, to Mozambique, to avoid the free measles vaccine that was being distributed, were rounded up by police and vaccinated at gunpoint upon returning to the country.

The vaccine safety/choice community has been hearing reports of this happening in Africa for more than a year now, but this is the first official story that I have heard thus far and thus been able to report. In this case the District Health Officer himself, Dr. Matchaya, freely admitted to the newspaper that this was done.

"According to Dr. Medison Matchaya District Health Officer for Nsanje, medics went to vaccinate the children in Nsanje under police escort.

"We were alerted that some children who were hiding in Mozambique were back in the country and we asked police to escort the health officials in order to vaccinate them and we have managed to vaccinate about 131 children," said Matchaya.

This week, Bill Gates, working on another round of publicity for his "Year of the Vaccines" campaign (which just happens to fall on the year that he became an owner of a vaccine company, funny that) has declared at the GAVI meeting that the world needs to work toward "vaccine equity". He wants every child on the planet vaccinated. (Which in my book only matters when he is of course elected King of the World, which he hasn't been. Gates is not even a doctor, but just some guy who dropped out of college and made a bunch of cash on his buggy software via pushy business practices. I am more qualified to give medical advice than Gates is.)

"It's now that we are going to start to get the last two vaccines that rich kids take for granted, Pneumococcal and RotaVirus, and over these next five years, get them out to every child everywhere. That means for the first time ever, that we have equity in vaccines. That we don't take the poorest children who are actually the most susceptible to these diseases, and the benefit of giving them the vaccine is the highest, and yet in the past, they've been the ones who don't get it. And so, it really is, in the achievement of equity, this is a very important day. Now our foundation wants to do its part, so I am pleased to announce to you that we are pledging and additional billion dollars... (pause for lengthy applause)... Thank you... alright, thank you... It's not every day we give away a billion dollars, but for a cause like this it is exciting to be doing it. That will be over the next five years."

So will Bill "Not a Doctor" Gates' billion dollars go to making sure that the basic human right not to be injected with any substance against ones will is respected? Or will some of it go to guns to force people to take the vaccines that they don't want?

Will any of that billion to care for children who suffer vaccine injury? Wanna know the difference between my vaccine injured son a let's say, a child in a small African village who suffers a vaccine encephalopathy? In our house we have doors with locks on them to keep him safe inside, and school systems that are legally obligated to serve him. Take a moment and imagine what it would be like to try to keep your neurologically impaired child alive in rural Africa for a month or two. Just watched a short documentary about a new neurological illness befalling children in one African village. Parents have to tie their children to the side of their homes with a rope to prevent them from walking away and dying. That is how they live their entire lives.

I submitted the following media inquiry to the Gates Foundation. I have not waited for a response, as I understand that these questions have been sent in on several occasions and no one that I know of has ever received a response. I will amend this article if they do respond:

"Subject: Vaccination forced at gun point
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:50:43 -0400
From: Ginger Taylor
To: media@gatesfoundation.org

I am writing a piece and I am looking for comment from Bill Gates or the Gates Foundation on forced vaccination.

Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation have donated billions to new global vaccination campaigns over the next decade. Gates announced at GAVI a billion over the next five years to get Pneumococcal and Rotavirus vaccines "out to every child everywhere".

But, not every family wants these vaccines or believes that they are in their child's best interest, and of course, all vaccines carry risk of serious injury or even death to some people.

In light of this, do Bill Gates and The Gates Foundation believe that people should be coerced or forced into vaccinating against their will in violation if their human rights to decide what pharmaceuticals go into their bodies?

Further, for more than a year now, we in the vaccine safety/choice community have been hearing about people being vaccinated at gun point in Africa, but had not had any confirmation of these reports. Today an official in Malawi confirmed that he lead such an effort, and used police to force vaccinate children of families who did not want the measles vaccine.

131 Children Vaccinated at Gunpoint in Nsanje

Do Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation support or condemn this practice?

Additionally, in the US, vaccine injury (and deaths) are recognized by all involved in vaccination and our Department of Health and Human Services has a compensation program that was set up to provide financial compensation to those injured by vaccines so that their loved ones could care for them. Will the Gates Foundation be setting up a similar system to care for those who will be injured by their vaccine campaigns?


Ginger Taylor"

I am equally as interested in Paul Offit's thoughts on this, as it is a huge payday for him in future royalties. Bill Gates money is going to to buy his vaccine for every single person in the entire world. Offit advocates coerced vaccination, recommending that people be forced to take classes before being "allowed" to refuse a shot for themselves or their child. In the trailer for The Greater Good, Offit says, "Sadly, some people don't do what it best for their children unless it is mandated."



Note that he is not the only one advocating mandated vaccination. Gunpoint is one hell of a mandate. Does he believe that this level of coercion, threatening to kill someone if they don't vaccinate, is appropriate?

I sent the following to Dr. Offit. He has responded to my inquiries before, so there is a much better chance I will hear back from him. I will let you know if he responds.

Subject: Gun Point Vaccination in Africa
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:42:08 -0400
From: Ginger Taylor
To: offit@email.chop.edu

Dr. Offit,

You have spoken out in favor of vaccine mandates and compelling individuals to take an education course on vaccination before they would be allowed to turn down a vaccine for themselves or their children.

For more than a year now, we in the vaccine safety/choice community have been hearing about people being vaccinated at gun point in Africa, but had not had any confirmation of these reports. Today an official in Malawi confirmed that he lead such an effort, and used police to force vaccinate children of families who did not want the measles vaccine.

131 Children Vaccinated at Gunpoint in Nsanje

Do you support or condemn this practice?

Ginger Taylor

So the questions are... just how insane does this vaccine push have to get before the world stands up and says "NO!".  How far does this go... this Doctocracy?  How many shots?  How many other medical interventions?

This has officially become the plot of a bad movie. Egomaniac billionaire desperate to leave a legacy proving he is the most wonderful man in the world, destroys long term health of civilization, pits doctors against patients and citizens against governments (and NGOs who have become delusional that they are actually governments with power over people). Gates and GAVI seem to want all the rights to make people's health decisions for them, but I don't see them talking about taking any of the responsibilities for the outcomes of those decisions.

When I heard "vaccine equity" I immediately thought, "so now children in rural Africa and Asia will have the same access to immune dysfunction and brain damage that my son has?" Congratulations children of the world?  When rich, educated, established Americans (even medical professionals) can't get recognition and proper care for their vaccine injured children, what chance do you think poor single African mother has?  And we now know that if she tries to say no in the first place, there is a chance that a gun will be used to make her do what Bill Gates has decided is good for her child.

"Authority should derive from the consent of the governed, not from the threat of force!" - Barbie, Toy Story 3

UPDATE:

Michael Belkin noted that Melinda Gates has already been praising Malawi for their vaccine program:

‘How is it that they do that? What I found was that the vision and dedication of the country’s top leadership has been absolutely instrumental in terms of making success in this area. So the country, one of the commitments that they’ve made is to build out this cadre of front line workers they call them in their country health surveillance assistants. So every month these 11,000 health surveillance assistants spend 3 weeks out in the villages, talking with the villagers providing basic vaccinations … They make sure the vaccinations happen, not only at the village level but all the way back through the system.’