Thalia Michelle and Rainna Moran were promoting the Thinking Mom's Revolution book, and went on a local New Orleans station to discuss on a show called The 504 with Melanie Hebert. They also had a local ABA therapist, PhD Koren Boggs. Boggs did not like their vaccine stance, it got heated, so Ms. Hebert had Boggs and TMR back on the following night to debate the issue. Kim Spencer was up for TMR this time, and wiped the floor with Boggs, who actually even repeated the "thimerosal in the MMR" cluelessness.
So I got mad, wrote this piece, and made this video, which ran last week on the TMR blog:
Dr. Koran Boggs Is An Idiotby Ginger TaylorIt's harsh... I know... but I can't take this crap any more. She should know better.It has been NINE YEARS for me since my son regressed after DTaP, Hep B and three other shots, while I have to hear the lie that, "there is no association between vaccines and autism," repeated over and over and over and over... That made me nuts back when there were less than ten research papers that showed a link, and now I know of 70!
Including one that showed that our own federal government has paid at least 83 autism cases from the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, while also pretending that vaccines could not possibly cause autism.
I just can't stand the deceit any more.So when I saw Kim's debate with Dr. Koran Boggs, I got so angry I had to stop half way through and take a long break just so I didn't have a neurological event.
Then I just needed to rant:
You can see why the seasoned Pharma/Public Health talking heads never agree to be in a debate with any of us. They can't get away with the usual BS talking points. ;)So the list of research is growing steadily, as more people see it and sent me studies that I have missed, so these links will be updated regularly. You can view it on my blog, on Facebook to share there, or in a Word doc. Please spread them around any time you hear the lie that "the vaccine/autism causation theory has been debunked because is based on one retracted British study and the opinion of a playboy model and that there is not one study that supports the theory that vaccines cause autism."
In fact, share them right now. Then share this video.
And here is the information on Bill Posey bill's to force the vaxxed/unvaxxed study that CDC still won't do after thirty plus years. Call your congressman and ask him to be a co-sponsor. Do it. And then share it too.Now on the
study... she is referring to Honda's study, "No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a total population study." If you read the abstract, which I have linked to, it gives the impression that this is a study that compares kids who got the MMR to unvaccinated children, to see if there was a difference in autism rates: Japan
"The MMR vaccination rate in the city of Yokohama declined significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1992, and not a single vaccination was administered in 1993 or thereafter."However, when you read the actual study itself, you find that the study was done when
(which using the MMR with the Urabe strain Mumps vaccine) realized that it was causing meningitis, and yanked the vaccine. They replaced it with the single dose version of the Measles vaccine, the Mumps vaccine and the Rubella vaccine: Japan
"However, due to a high frequency of reports of aseptic meningitis, a suspected side effect of the mumps vaccine (Urabe strain), the program was terminated in April 1993. Subsequently, only monovalent vaccines were administered. Following a reform of the Immunization Law in 1994, measles and rubella vaccinations were each specified for children between the ages of 12 and 90 months (the measles vaccine was recommended between 12 and 24 months of age and the rubella vaccine between 12 and 36 months). The mumps vaccination was voluntary and aimed at children one year of age or older who had not contracted mumps. It was also stipulated that an interval of at least four weeks separate administration of vaccinations."
So this not a vaxxed v. unvaxxed study, this is a vaxxed v. vaxxed slightly differently study. The way this study is done, it actually asks the question, "is the MMR that
was using the SOLE cause of autism." And not one person in the debate thought the MMR was the only cause of autism at the time. In 2005 when the study was published, David Kirby had just written Evidence of Harm, parents were trying to find Hg free vaccines and as we know... Thimerosal was never in the MMR. Japan
If anything is to be gained at all from this study, it is evidence that splitting up the MMR vaccine into individual shots may not be of any help in avoiding an autism regression.
And we can see that from her poor understanding of the Honda study, Dr. Boggs either ONLY read the abstract, and made some assumptions, or someone just told her that this was a vaxxed/unvaxxed study and she didn't bother to check for herself. (Likely the same person who told her that there is no research that supports the vaccine/autism causation theory.)And here is CDC's MMWR on the chelation deaths. 1 boy with autism. 1 girl with lead poisoning, both accidently given Na2EDTA instead of the appropriate drug for them, CaEDTA, with which they had both been treated successfully prior to the drug mix up. A third woman died, believed to be using the same version of EDTA, and all three deaths were associated with hypocalcemia (basically the Na2EDTA pulled all the calcium out of their blood.) In talking with docs, it is my understanding that Calcium EDTA is now becoming the standard drug for chelating both adults and children. We chelated our own son with IV CaEDTA with wonderful results and no side effects.So, to Dr. Boggs... Kim said you were wrong, and as we see here, you were wrong. No Thimerosal in the MMR, vaxxed/unvaxxed autism research does not exist per CDC's own testimony under oath only 8 months ago, and we have presented here 70 research papers that show not just one, but MANY links between vaccines and autism.
We await your formal letter retracting your false claims, and I believe it would be most appropriate for you to send the letter to Ms. Hebert so it may be read on her show, "The 504," where you disseminated your errant information in the first place.Because it is all about the science... and the children... right?
That same day I wrote to Boggs, and copied her director at Children's Hospital of New Orleans and the reporter who aired the stories:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaannd.... no response.
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Subject: Your 504 debate appearance Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:39:47 -0400 From: Ginger Taylor To: Koren Boggs CC: Kim Spencer, Jodi Kamps , Melanie Hebert
Dear Dr. Boggs,
I am the mother of a child who regressed into autism following his 18 month vaccines and now work in vaccine safety advocacy nearly full time. I hold a Masters of Science from Johns Hopkins in mental health, and I am currently providing research for the House Committee on Oversight & Government Reform for their upcoming hearings into the federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (the second in this past year their series on vaccine safety, autism, and associated disorders.)
As some one who has been looking at the vaccine/autism issue for almost a decade, while working to heal my son, it was extremely upsetting to me to hear you repeating falsehoods on your appearance on The 504.
I was moved to make a video addressing you directly and taking apart your claims. It is now posted, along with a letter and links disproving your statements, on the Thinking Mom's Revolution web site. http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/when-doctors-lie-oh-hell-no/ It is harsh and direct (deservedly, I believe), and I am hoping that it will humble you to the point that you examine yourself and your claims, and that you will do the right thing and retract your statements that:
1. There was mercury in the MMR. (You have confused two different autism causation theories)
2. That there is vaccinated v. unvaccinated autism research. (Note the video of the CDC being forced under oath eight months ago to admit there is none.)
3. There is no research supporting vaccine autism causation, and the entire theory is based on one study published fifteen years ago. (70 Studies that show a link.)
I await your reply to my video and demand for a formal retraction. Kim Spencer was right, and you do a disservice to your credibility, to Ms. Spencer, and to all those affected by autism, by letting your errant pronouncements stand.