tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post112806451667951442..comments2024-03-27T15:43:53.969-04:00Comments on Adventures in Autism: 100 plus kids will kill themselves on StratteraGinger Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04200286625735078479noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-31322041319739150572009-11-14T15:33:52.645-05:002009-11-14T15:33:52.645-05:00Come on - get the math right!
1% of 2.55 million ...Come on - get the math right!<br /><br />1% of 2.55 million = 25,500 children will have suicidal ideation because of the drug.<br /><br />"There are 2,400 adolescents thinking about suicide for every one that commits suicide"<br /><br />This means 11 (25,500/2400=10.625) or so kids will successfully kill themselves because of Strattera.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396041893616426861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-67672878205132333652009-04-13T15:15:00.000-04:002009-04-13T15:15:00.000-04:00Like the blog. A new reader here. Have a 6 year ol...Like the blog. A new reader here. Have a 6 year old son with mild autism.<BR/><BR/>I don't work for a drug company. I work in the security industry. I believe it's appropriate to point out that suicidal ideation does not equal suicidal death takes place. SI's certainly can lead to suicidal death, and I don't mean to minimize SIs in any way. Each should and must be taken very seriously. But the deduction made "100 plus kids will kill themselves on Strattera" is simply incorrect and inaccurate.<BR/><BR/>I like what you're doing on the blog, but some parents, like me, are on their 3rd neurologist and are looking up more info. on the internet about Concerta, Strattera and other medications that are being recommended following consultations. Then I come across your post and was rather surprised by the assertion and stretched math.<BR/><BR/>I'm a realist and a skeptic. I don't trust that anybody knows what their doing 100% with respect to PDD and ADHD. Between Jenny McCarthy, Casein-Free B.S., vitamin therapy, I don't know how anyone can keep buying and buying the bs being shoveled around. I get the "make money" theme.<BR/><BR/>Everyone makes mistakes. But I just wanted to mention that some people might Google "Strattera", come across your site, and then get the wrong idea from what you've mentioned.GabrielsDad09https://www.blogger.com/profile/01610787237248975002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-53679744624652933022008-11-24T10:50:00.000-05:002008-11-24T10:50:00.000-05:00LOLChristmas is coming up. Maybe you should consid...LOL<BR/><BR/>Christmas is coming up. Maybe you should consider buying him a calculator? :)<BR/><BR/>P.S. There is still the take-away that the use of psychoactive pharmaceuticals, or really anything that can mess with your perception of reality (this includes things like holistic cleanses too), are serious business. More-so with the young, who are likely to have less experience and tools developed to work with. Thus arming yourself with [accurate] knowledge, a plan, and all the help you can muster going in is prudent.tylerxdurdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196000585522652326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-30438436615886183882008-11-24T10:40:00.000-05:002008-11-24T10:40:00.000-05:00Husband has been fired from one day guest blogger ...Husband has been fired from one day guest blogger statistician stint three years ago. <BR/><BR/>Will have to fall back on previous career as TV producer where he can't harm the pharmaceutical industry.Ginger Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04200286625735078479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-39013785784117321572008-11-24T10:30:00.000-05:002008-11-24T10:30:00.000-05:00Also it was 1357 receiving Strattera in the test. ...Also it was 1357 receiving Strattera in the test. Meaning the percentage is actually more like 0.4%. So 2.55 million x 0.4% is 10,200 rather than the 255,000. So using the 2,400 reconning number that works out to 4-5 kids that could commit suicide (assuming extra vigilance doesn't help avoid those tragedies).<BR/><BR/>Sad indeed but comparing to your original post ... well the difference is very, very stark. Considering that's about 1 in 500,000 odds that does certainly warrant the "safe" language.<BR/><BR/><I>Edit from prior post removing inappropriate snippiness.</I>tylerxdurdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196000585522652326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-11706982893907821732008-11-24T10:15:00.000-05:002008-11-24T10:15:00.000-05:00fixed... thanks for the heads up.fixed... thanks for the heads up.Ginger Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04200286625735078479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-40580191671593261072008-11-24T10:04:00.000-05:002008-11-24T10:04:00.000-05:00"1% of 2.55 million = 255,000 children will have s..."1% of 2.55 million = 255,000 children will have suicidal ideation because of the drug."<BR/><BR/>Apparently basic arithmetic is not a required subject for John Hopkins training. That's 25,500, not 255,000. :(tylerxdurdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196000585522652326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-84181091394126527872007-05-29T15:56:00.000-04:002007-05-29T15:56:00.000-04:00I have a 10 year old with Autism and I love the fa...I have a 10 year old with Autism and I love the fact that strattera is a non-stimulant drug. He is very impulsive, a loner, picked on all the time. He is already at risk for SI. I say be conserned let Eli Lilly know our conserns. Let other people be conserned. But don't go on a drug company bashing kick. I am afriad they will stop search for help for our kids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-1169598598833788702007-01-23T19:29:00.000-05:002007-01-23T19:29:00.000-05:00I appricate the concern, however, I think my son w...I appricate the concern, however, I think my son would kill him self with out it. I also understand that anyone taking the drug who does anythig abnormal, or for somereason gets a secondary medical condition, all of the sudden it is the medication's falt. I think we should really take a good hard look at and the facts, and mabe there may be some other underlying causes. But because it happens, now they have to say, that as a warrningAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-1128326744089558002005-10-03T04:05:00.000-04:002005-10-03T04:05:00.000-04:00kids with adhd are impulsive. I wonder if the one...kids with adhd are impulsive. I wonder if the ones who weren't taking any drugs were more impulsive and so more likely to do dangerous things that could get themselves killed? Say like, deciding to try to jump off the roof of the house with a bedsheet for a parachute... or not looking before running into the street.<BR/><BR/>IF, straterra helped with that kind of impulsivity, it would be good to balance the lives and limbs saved by the controlled impulsivity vs, the increase of suicidal ideation.<BR/><BR/>That's an IF though, since I don't know if strattera or ritalin or any other drug has been shown to save the lives of otherwise impulsive adhd kids. I'm thinking about my brother who was an adhd type kid and who crawled out on a little bit of roof from a second story window when he was like 2 or 3 years old, but was found in time before he fell or jumped.<BR/>He also used to run out in the street. This street had logging trucks running on it regularly. (Idaho)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7771487.post-1128077883957748012005-09-30T06:58:00.000-04:002005-09-30T06:58:00.000-04:00Let me get this straight. Eli Lilly has marketed ...Let me get this straight. Eli Lilly has marketed a product that, as it turns out, presents a genuine danger to a small but statistically significant group of users. But they still believe the product is “safe and effective.” I’m shocked.Wade Rankinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12986780783735604000noreply@blogger.com